4g vehicle router işler

yeni kurulan ve sürekli büyüyen organizasyonumuzda yer alan her türlü bilgisayar ,server, yazıcı , router , kamera ,modem ,switch gibi donanımları aktif olarak listeleyecek ve bir diagram harita üzerinde gösterip , bunların güncel olarak tutulması işi . Örnek çizim dosyası ektedir. / Edrawmax üzerinde çizilmiş network diyagram - İşlem bir kez yapıldıktan sonra ayda 1 güncelleme yapılması talebimiz bulunmaktadır. aktif olarak 50 bilgisayar , 80 kamera , server i ups gibi toplamda 300 e yakın donanım mevcuttur.

I need 3D vehicle models with PBR material and maps to be used for games. Truck, Bus, Minibus Etc. Photos of the vehicles will be given and modeled on it. PBR textures will be made in substance painter. Max poly will be 50k It will have a smooth topology Coatings and PBR maps will be made It will be compatible with the game engine Detailed explanation will be made

...son kısmına yaklaştık. Bu aşamada frontend ve backend ekibimizdeki eksik işlere destek olacak. Benzer iş tecrübesi olan kişilerle görüşmek istiyoruz. Proje bilgilendirme web sitesi: Yazılım ekibimiz aşağıdaki şekilde teknolojilerimizi ve ihtiyacımız olan işleri listeledi. Yazılım Tarafı Detaylı Bilgilendirme: Frontend teknolojileri:      - Javascript      - ReactJs, React Router, Context Api      - Tailwindcss      - Amazon Web Services      - Git  Frontend yapılacaklar:      - Sayfaların çevirisi      - Google ile kayıt kısmının backend ile etkileşimi     ...

...son kısmına yaklaştık. Bu aşamada frontend ve backend ekibimizdeki eksik işlere destek olacak. Benzer iş tecrübesi olan kişilerle görüşmek istiyoruz. Proje bilgilendirme web sitesi: Yazılım ekibimiz aşağıdaki şekilde teknolojilerimizi ve ihtiyacımız olan işleri listeledi. Yazılım Tarafı Detaylı Bilgilendirme: Frontend teknolojileri:      - Javascript      - ReactJs, React Router, Context Api      - Tailwindcss      - Amazon Web Services      - Git  Frontend yapılacaklar:      - Sayfaların çevirisi      - Google ile kayıt kısmının backend ile etkileşimi     ...

3 table design with Mongo db Location Information Driver Information Vehicle Information With the layered architecture, vehicle and location information will be obtained, and driver information will be obtained.

Wordpress deki kullanıcı hesapları ile giriş yapılabilen Araç KM takibi, Bakım bilgileri, Masraf giderleri, Marka Model ve Plaka tercihli uygulama/ Vehicle KM tracking, Maintenance information, Expense expenses, Brand Model and Plate preferential application, which can be logged in with user accounts on Wordpress

Merhaba, linkinde bulunan araçlar gibi 8 adet araç yaptırmak istiyorum. Örnek linkte seçmiş olduğunuz aracın rengini değiştiriyorsunuz, ben ise renk değiştirmek yerine ''her araç'' için işi yapacak arkadaşa ''3'er resim'' vereceğim. (Toplamda 24 resim olacak) Bu 3 resimden hangisi tıklanırsa o resim aracın üzerine otomatik olarak kaplanacak. Aslında bu işe ''ARAÇ KAPLAMA'' diyebiliriz. Araştırmalarım sonucu ''.glb'' uzantılı dosya tipi günümüzdeki tüm tarayıcı ve mobil cihazlarda sorunsuz şekilde çalışıyormuş, bu yüzden export esnasında dosyaların ''.glb'' uzantısı olmak zorunda. 8 araçtan 4 tane...

Selam, bir 4G Router projemiz var. Bu proje kapsamında OpenWrt kullanımını planlıyoruz. Bu konuda bizlere yardımcı olabilir misiniz? Bu projeyi sizlerle nasıl görüşebiliriz?

router ve freeradiusla birlikte Hotspot projesi geliş C# ile ASP.Net şeklinde olacaktır. Projede yer alacak kişinin istanbulda olması tercihimizdir. Projenin aciliyeti vardır

...geliştirilmesi, üretim yönetimi eklenecek, filo yönetimi (Araç takibi ve sevkiyat planlama) eklenecek. English Dolibarr Erp open source php software design changes and additional modules are required. Detailed information will be discussed. Briefly speaking, the structure of the menu, the opening structure of the forms, the development of reports, production management will be added, fleet management (vehicle tracking and shipment planning) will be added....

web sitem için seo çalışması yaptırmak arama motorları google yahoo vs. gibi sitelerde anhtar kelimelerimde 1. sırada çıkmak istiyorum anahtar kelime : cnc router, cnc router imalat, cnc kaynak, cnc router satış , gibi anahtar kelimelerinde 1. sırada çıkmak isterim teklif verirmisiniz

web sitem için seo çalışması yaptırmak arama motorları google yahoo vs. gibi sitelerde anhtar kelimelerimde 1. sırada çıkmak istiyorum anahtar kelime : cnc router, cnc router imalat, cnc kaynak, cnc router satış , gibi anahtar kelimelerinde 1. sırada çıkmak isterim teklif verirmisiniz

Selamlar, asagidaki konulara hakim ve ozellike heroku ve bitbucket ile proje yapmaya alisik bir programci ariyorum. Ilgilenir misniz? Frontend requirements: Vue.js, Vuex, Vue-router, (s)css, webpack, Google maps and Backend requirements: Node.js, express, postgres, redis and

router ile Hotspot projesi geliş C# ile ASP.Net şeklinde olacaktı aciliyet durumu yüksektir.

router ile Hotspot projesi geliş C# ile ASP.Net şeklinde olacaktı aciliyet durumu yüksektir.

...Saha Koordinatörü ve Teknik Müdür arayışımız söz konusudur. Aşağıda yer verilen teknik özelliklere sahip adayların sağlayacağı teknik destek karşılığında maaş+prim usulüyle çalışmasını beklemekteyiz. - Firewall, switch ve router gibi aktif cihazların kurulum, yönetim veya desteği konusunda deneyim sahibi, - Network güvenlik teknolojilerinde, Güvenlik Duvarı (Firewall), Saldırı Tespit ve Önleme(IPS), Web Content Gateway, Email Security, DLP ürünlerine hakim, - Ağ yönetimi, protokolleri ve servisleri hakkında bilgili (TCP/IP, DHCP, DNS, FTP, TELNET, Firewall, VPN, Router, vb.,), network topolojilerine hakim, - OSI Referans katmanlarının Ethernet ve TCP/IP standartları üzerinde uygulama te...

router ile Hotspot projesi geliş C# ile ASP.Net şeklinde olacaktı aciliyet durumu yüksektir.

Title: Product information collection for vehicle <Overview> Please collect product information on vehicles that have or will have the technologies described in the “Technology Description” section below. <Technology Description> This technology is a technique that uses light to draw on the road surface in the direction the car is moving. The light changes direction and color based on the direction the car is moving. For example, the light drawing appears white behind the car when the car is in reverse, and orange on the left rear side of the car when it is making a left turn. <<NOTICE>> The target car brands in this search are limited to Japan, US, and Chinese brands. <Requirements for Payment> ・Submit documentary evidence that clearly...

...information of the autonomous driving system <Overview> Please collect product information on vehicles that have or will have the technologies described in the “Technology Description” section below. <Technology Description> This product is related to the autonomous driving system. The system performs automatic driving control that allows the vehicle to drive automatically. Automated driving control includes automatic lane change, which causes the vehicle to change lanes. The system starts changing lanes upon receiving an instruction to start changing lanes, determines whether the conditions for stopping the lane change are met, and gives priority to the driver's steering if the driver turns the wheel while changing lanes. During a lane chang...

...systems. <Overview> Please collect product information on vehicles that have or will have the technologies described in the “Technology Description” section below. <Technology Description> This product is about autonomous driving systems. When the driver operates the steering, accelerator, brakes, or other controls during automated driving, the system ends automated driving and switches the vehicle to manual operation. When the system requests the driver to end automatic driving during automatic driving, it notifies the driver that automatic driving will continue and prepares for manual driving, and then activates the operating means to end automatic driving. Notify the driver to take action. After the driver operates a device such as a button, switch, l...

Title: Collecting product information of the automatic braking of the vehicle <Overview> Please collect product information on vehicles that have or will have the technologies described in the “Technology Description” section below. <Technology Description> This system is about automatic braking of the vehicles. This system can detect obstacles in front of the car and automatically stop the car in case of a potential collision. The system measures the distance and relative speed to obstacles and automatically adjusts the car's braking power accordingly. When the braking force reaches a predetermined value from its upper limit, the braking force is weakened. The upper limit of braking force is set to increase over time after a predetermined amount of ...

<Overview> Please collect product information on a vehicle control device that have or will have the technologies described in the “Technology Description” section below. <Technology Description> This technology arbitrates between control commands acquired from driving support applications that respectively implements driving support functions, outputs instructions based on a control command after arbitration to a processor that is able to control at least one of a brake actuator or a drive actuator. This technology also acquires a steering angle and a yaw rate as the control commands from the driving support applications. Please search for this technology in this contest. <<NOTICE>> The target car brands in this search are limited to US, Europ...

Objective: Develop a robust vehicle counting application optimized for the NVIDIA Jetson Nano. The application should accurately count cars passing through multiple cameras using RTSP live streams. Key Requirements: Modular Design: The software should have a configurable region of interest (ROI). This will allow customization of the tracking area for different camera setups. The system should support settings for either two-way or single direction vehicle detection, selectable per camera. Multi-Camera Support: The application must handle live feeds from at least three cameras simultaneously without frame skipping. Ensure seamless capturing, detecting, and tracking across all cameras, maintaining high accuracy and performance. Error Handling: Implement robust error handling ...

...providing access to the internet. Requirements: Master's degree or PhD in Computer Science, Cybersecurity, or a related field Extensive experience in internet security, privacy, and VPN technologies Strong proficiency in server-side software development Familiarity with OpenWrt and router firmware development (preferred) Passion for internet security and privacy Responsibilities: Develop robust Wireguard exit nodes and VPN server software Ensure seamless integration with existing client software and VPN router firmware Implement secure authentication mechanisms for client connections Design scalable server architecture for hosting on rented solutions and in-house servers Create comprehensive documentation and instructions for server deployment and management Prefer...

I'm looking for a professional Woocommerce website designer and developer to create an e-commerce platform for my vehicle aftermarket accessories store. Key Requirements: - E-commerce Platform: This website's primary purpose is to sell aftermarket vehicle accessories. Therefore, the platform must be designed to facilitate easy browsing, product selection, and checkout. - Select accessories based on Car Make, Model, Varient and Year filters needed. - Inventory Management: I plan to sync my product inventory with a supplier's database. This means the site must be capable of handling automatic updates and stock levels. - Payment Methods: I intend to offer Credit Card Payments, UPI, and Debit Card payment methods on the site. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Prof...

I am seeking bridge design experts...vehicles like cars and motorbikes as well as heavy vehicles such as trucks and buses. The proposed design should factor in strength, durability, and traffic flow for effective usage. Ideal Skills: - Degree in Civil or Structural Engineering - Experience in bridge design and functionality - Knowledge in geometric designs - Proficient in design software - Understands load calculations for different vehicle types. Views of the three-dimensional model of the proposal that includes all structural and complementary elements (Parapets, shoulders, barriers, joints, etc.), description of type of elements, cross sections and important details in the geometry of the proposal based on the following allocations per team (in all cases, the bridge will have...

As a client, I'm in need of a skilled ReactJS developer with no less than 10 years of experience in the field who can help me develop a new web application from scratch. Essential Skills: - In-depth knowledge of React Component Development - Proficiency in Redux State Management - Experience with React Router Navigation The perfect candidate for this role should be well-versed in additional tools and technologies such as: - GraphQL - TypeScript - Jest testing framework. The main objective of this project is to build a robust and dynamic web application that meets our specific requirements and standards. Your role will be pivotal in designing, creating, testing and implementing this web application. So, if you're up for a challenge and willing to dedicate your time an...

I'm looking for a developer who already has pre-built car rental software. The software should have the following features: - Vehicle inventory management - Online booking system - Payment gateway integration I need to customize this software to cater to the needs of tourists. This includes making the booking system user-friendly and ensuring that the payment gateway is secure and internationally accessible. Ideal candidate will have experience in: - PHP development - Software customization - Familiarity with car rental industry Your understanding of both PHP and the challenges of tourism will be a huge plus. The project requires someone who can hit the ground running and deliver a high-quality, user-friendly solution.

I am looking to create a rental marketplace dedicated to vehicle rentals. This marketplace needs to be user-friendly with an emphasis on a smooth, easy to navigate interface. Key features of this project include: - Online Rental Transactions: The platform must support online payments, therefore familiarity with popular payment gateways is essential. - User Profiles: Ability to create and manage user profiles for owners and renters. - Search and Filter: Renters should be able to easily search and filter through available rentals based on various criteria. - Ratings and Reviews: A system for rating and reviewing both vehicles and renters will need to be incorporated. - Security: As this platform will handle confidential user information and monetary transactions, a strong underst...

I need a Flutter application that evaluates the vital state of vehicle tires using visual analysis and machine learning. Key Features: - The app should be compatible with both iOS and Android platforms - It should assess the condition of tires through: - Visual analysis - Machine learning algorithms I'm seeking a professional with experience in building applications with Flutter and integrating artificial intelligence. The ideal freelancer should be familiar with: - Image processing techniques - Machine learning algorithms - Developing for iOS and Android Overall, the goal is to create a user-friendly app that can provide accurate and reliable assessments of tire conditions.

I'm seeking a proficient Unity developer to help create an engaging vehicle simulation game centered around trains. The project involves building intricate locomotive models, creating immersive environments, and fine-tuning driving mechanics to provide players with an authentic train conductor experience. Key tasks include: - Development of 3D train models. - Creation of realistic environments. - Implementation of responsive controls to simulate genuine train handling. Ideal skills and experiences: - Intensive knowledge of Unity game development. - Proven experience developing vehicle simulation games. - Proficiency in 3D modeling and environments. - Strong understanding of physics for realistic movement and controls.

...Key Features: - Advanced Search Filters: Enable users to easily find their desired car based on various criteria such as make, model, year, price, etc. - Online Payment Integration: Implement a secure and reliable payment gateway for seamless transactions. - User Reviews and Ratings: Allow customers to leave feedback and rate their purchase experience, enhancing the credibility of the platform. Vehicle Listings: The website will exclusively list new cars. Therefore, it's essential to focus on showcasing these vehicles effectively. News Section: Additionally, I'm interested in incorporating a news section to share the latest happenings and updates in the automotive industry. This would help in engaging users and keeping them informed. Ideal Skills and Experience: - P...

**Tour Costing Sheet Structure** 1. **Tour Details** - Tour Name - Tour Code - Duration - Destinations 2. **Client Information** - Client Name - Number of Adults/Children - Contact Information 3. **Accommodation** - Hotel Name - Room Type - Meal Plan - Cost per Night - Total Nights - Total Cost 4. **Transportation** - Vehicle Type - Distance - Cost per Kilometer - Total Cost 5. **Sightseeing and Activities** - Activity Name - Per Person Cost - Number of Persons - Total Cost 6. **Miscellaneous Expenses** - Guide Fees - Entrance Fees - Other Expenses 7. **Pricing** - Subtotal (Sum of all costs) - Markup Percentage - GST (Goods and Services Tax) - Final Price 8. **Payment Details** - Deposit ...

I'm seeking a skilled network expert to assist with setting up a GRE tunnel on our MikroTik router. The primary goal of this project is to seamlessly connect our multiple remote offices. Key Requirements: - Implementation of a MikroTik GRE tunnel configuration emphasizing on traffic routing - Ensuring optimal connectivity and data transmission between all connected offices Ideal Candidate: - Proficiency in MikroTik router configuration, particularly with GRE tunnels - Solid understanding and experience with network traffic routing - Prior experience with setting up connectivity for remote offices - Ability to ensure uninterrupted data transmission and network availability across multiple locations This is an urgent project, so I'm looking for someone who can sta...

I'm looking for a tech-savvy individual who can help me set up my Google Nest Audio Wi-Fi speakers. Key tasks include: - Connecting the speakers to my home network - Troubleshooting any potential connection issues You should have prior experience with setting up Wi-Fi enabled speakers and be comfortable working through potential connectivity problems. Familiarity with Google Nest Audio in particular would be a huge plus. Look forward to working with a skilled individual on this small, yet crucial project.

I require a comprehensive, captivating presentation that will be delivered to potential drivers and advertisers for our company's unique vehicle advertising program. Key Inclusions: - Detailed Explanation of the Advertising Program: This should be clearly and concisely outlined. - The fees that we will pay the drivers, based off of the size of the adverts on their vehciles - the costs that we will quote to the advertisers, based off of the size of the advert and the number of cars per campaign and the campaign length. The presentation will be delivered to: - Potential Drivers: The earning potential of this program will be a key focus point. Drivers should be enticed by the financial benefits of participating in our advertising program. - Potential Advertisers: The pricing mod...

...them for rent. Here are the features expected in the application: - A Car Reservation System: The ability for users to book their desired exotic car. - User Profiles: Both renters and owners should be able to set up their profiles. - User Reviews and Ratings: To maintain transparency, reviews and ratings from past rentals should be displayed. For owners, the application must provide: - A Vehicle Listing Feature: To showcase their available vehicles for rent. - Rental Rate Setting Tools: Allow the owners to set their prices. - A Payment Gateway: To streamline transactions securely within the app. Ideal freelancers for this project are experienced in mobile app development, especially those with a successful track record of developing marketplace or rental-based application...

I'm looking to build an interactive car selling website. It should be a platform where users can browse, search and list vehicles for sale. Key Features: - Search Functionality: The website must have robust search capabilities that allow users to filter by make, model, year, price range, etc. - Vehicle Listing Page: Each vehicle should have its own dedicated page with all relevant details and images. - User Registration and Login: Users should be able to sign up, create profiles, and manage their listings. Shopping Experience: - The purchase process will be facilitated directly on the website, with all necessary functionalities for transactions and user verification. Design: - I don't have a specific design in mind, so I'm open to suggestions on how to make...

I'm looking for a skilled network engineer who can assist in setting up a GRE tunnel on my MikroTik router. Key Requirements: - The main intent of this setup is to expand my network, so you should have a good understanding of network expansion principles. - You should be able to properly configure the GRE tunnel on MikroTik using best practices and ensure the network's optimal functionality post-setup. The ideal freelancer for this job should have experience in setting up GRE tunnels on MikroTik routers and a good understanding of network expansion strategies. A certification in networking would be a plus, but not mandatory. Look forward to receiving bids from suitable candidates.

I require legal assistance in drafting a demand letter for an insurance company, with an aim to claim reimbursement for property loss. The property involved is my vehicle, the damages of which have been accurately captured in photographs. Ideal applicants will have a background in law, specifically with experience in drafting demand letters for insurance claims. Knowledge about automobile insurance claims would be an added advantage. Key tasks: - Understanding the case based on the photographs provided - Drafting a persuasive demand letter outlining the damage and cost of the vehicle - Creating a letter that complies with legal standards Preferred skills and experience: - Legal expertise, specifically in insurance claim - Excellent written communication skills - Experienc...

I'm looking for a professional who can provide an in-depth traffic analysis for one road with the aim of identifying potential hazards related to vehicle collisions. You will be expected to: - Analyze traffic volume data - Determine the potential for vehicle collisions - Propose-methods to mitigate these hazards An ideal candidate would have experience in traffic safety analysis, specifically in predicting potential collision spots from high traffic volume data. Your insights will significantly contribute to the overall safety of this road.

I'm in need of a couple of retro style logos to use for branding purposes. I'm specifically looking for a design that reflects...design principles and the aesthetics of the 1950s. - Proven experience in logo design, particularly in creating logos for branding purposes. - Ability to create visually appealing, unique and memorable designs. - Understanding of the importance of brand identity and how it can be effectively incorporated into a logo. My business name is MacAskill Modifications I need 2 logos. One for custom vehicle work,repairs, fabrication ect And the second for the other side of the business which is custom built caravans. Motorhomes. Campervans. Doing all aspects of building and modifications and repairs. Attached is my current business card that was...

...required include: - Expertise in logo and print design and web design - Familiarity with the Transformers series, specifically the character of Optimus Prime - Understanding of machinery and vehicle structure Your responsibility will be to: - Create concepts for how we can visually morph our existing truck design into a representation of Optimus Prime - Give inputs on possible mechanical modifications that would complement the visual transformation - Prepare a visually appealing presentation of the design concept to be shared with stakeholders Experience in similar projects, especially involving vehicle design or modifications, will be a definitive plus. Your portfolio showcasing such works will aid us in our decision-making process. Let's work together to mak...

I'm in need of a vibrant and colorful design for my food trailer. The design should stand out, and be easily noticeable from a distance. The food trailer menu is the following: Philadelphia Cheesesteaks Nachos Loaded Fries and; Fresh Ginger ...folded down so it is easy to drive on the highway. Key Elements: - Create a logo and brand name - Include clearly visible menu items and prices - Ensure my contact information is easily readable - Editable Design Color Scheme: - I'm open to any color that is eye-catching and appealing, as long as it aligns well with the vibrant and colorful theme. Ideal Skills: - Graphic Design - Branding - Vehicle Wrap Design - Familiarity with food industry design aesthetics Attached is photos of the trailer can you put the design on the...

...situation better: - **Specific Issue**: The issue is specific to Windows updates. When a computer is connected to the MikroTik network, it fails to download updates. However, when the same computer is connected to a different network (like a hotspot), the updates download without any issue. - **Nature of Issue**: The problem doesn't seem to be with the individual computers, but with the MikroTik router itself. - **Recent Changes**: While I'm not entirely sure of the network's recent changes, it appears that the previous IT administrator may have made changes that could be related to this issue. One such possibility is the intentional blockage of Windows updates. Your responsibilities would include: - Diagnosing the root cause of this Windows update issue. - ...

I'm looking for designer to create a cheeky, funny and cool Zebra mascot in a cartoon style. Th...outlined with a black line. - To print large and small sized stickers (maximum size about 12 x 12 inch or 30 x 30 cm). To print the stickers I need a suitable image file : in addition to a jpg (at least 300 dpi) also a PSD. - The final design should be suitable for printing stickers. The stickers serve as giveaways and to decorate a Land Rover, introducing a fun and light-hearted touch to the vehicle. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in character design and illustration, especially in a cartoon style. - Creativity and a good sense of humor, to ensure the mascot is both cheeky and cool. If you're ready to take on this project, please provide examples of your prev...

...cruise control mode), in which the vehicle follows the preceding vehicle. In particular, this technology displays an icon indicating ACC mode in the display area when the vehicle is in ACC mode. At that time, the position and size of the ACC mode icon is controlled so that it does not overlap with the preceding vehicle traveling ahead. <<NOTICE>> The target car brands in this search are limited to US, European, Chinese, and South Korean brands. <Requirements for Payment> ・Submit documentary evidence that clearly states the details of the subject product, the name of the company selling the product, and the company that plans to sell the product. Documentary evidence includes websites, YouTube videos, repair manuals, photos of the actual...

I'm in need of a professional and appealing website for my vehicle rental business. The main goal of this website is to attract and convert visitors into leads. Key Features: - User-friendly design and layout that appeals to people looking to rent vehicles - Clear and compelling call-to-action buttons for 'Contact Form' and 'Request a Quote' - Integration with a lead management system to capture and organize leads effectively Skills/Experience Needed: - Proficiency in web design and development - Experience in creating lead-generating websites - Familiarity with designing for target audience (people seeking vehicle rentals) - Ability to integrate lead management systems Please be prepared to provide samples of your previous work, particularly web...

I'm in need of a qualified mechanic who can perform a thorough dispute inspection for mechanical faults focusing on transmission issues. This task requires: - Expert understanding of vehicle mechanics, specifically transmission systems - Proven experience in dispute inspections and fault diagnostics - An unbiased, objective analysis of the vehicle's condition Your report will be used in a dispute context, so detail and accuracy are paramount. The ideal freelancer would have a history of vehicle inspections and be able to articulate complex mechanical issues in a clear, concise and accessible narrative.

...communication, responsiveness. Design layout: This is to be a full car wrap – PLEASE NOTE: In my state we CANNOT put stickers on windows. A white 2024 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Limited (designers can use a standard car for design) Looking online at the car design may be helpful. The car is White so please use that with the designs I would like to see the sides, front hood, and back end of the vehicle Prominent things I’d like to see on the design: - The EXP logo and use of the Blue and Orange/Gold colors used in the logo around the car – almost flame like or line designs – I’ll include a few examples I’ve found online - The images of my dogs together on both sides of the car - You do NOT need to use their full photos but can use upper portions...